mac91
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Nov 27, 2008 11:24:33 GMT -5
Post by mac91 on Nov 27, 2008 11:24:33 GMT -5
i was wondering if i rebuild my 2.3na with forged pistons if i can add a turbo and corresponding componets (ie injectors fuel pump ect) and if not why not. I know many turbo 5.0s use a mass air meter or a stand alone why cant a 2.3 dual plug? im not going for a drag car just something to drive.
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schlot
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Nov 27, 2008 13:59:55 GMT -5
Post by schlot on Nov 27, 2008 13:59:55 GMT -5
I don't think it's a question of whether it can be done....it's more of a question of what you want to spend and how many headaches you want to go through to get it running. Most people stick with a more proven route for reasons of cost and support. I bought a set up from some one that was going to make a dual plug turbo for a sand rail. But cost and the headaches made them bail. The NA block is slightly different for use as a turbo setup, since it doesn't have the same oil/water cooling provisions for the turbo that the turbo block has, but I know ppl have used it. You are right in wanting to replace the pistons though. Engine managment is probable the biggest key to getting that combo running. www.svomustang.blogspot.com
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mac91
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Nov 28, 2008 9:19:15 GMT -5
Post by mac91 on Nov 28, 2008 9:19:15 GMT -5
what about the bamafuel ecu for the 91-93's
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schlot
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Nov 28, 2008 18:19:49 GMT -5
Post by schlot on Nov 28, 2008 18:19:49 GMT -5
Sorry no experience with a stand alone.
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bolduc
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93 na
Nov 28, 2008 18:39:57 GMT -5
Post by bolduc on Nov 28, 2008 18:39:57 GMT -5
Bamafuel isnt availible anymore because he commmitted fraud. So you would have to get one from a second source to run one.
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93 na
Nov 29, 2008 8:53:56 GMT -5
Post by turbocoop on Nov 29, 2008 8:53:56 GMT -5
I would look at either megasquirt or sdsefi.com...both are standalone but im sure stinger can give you some better insight as far as when standalone is needed. My next question would be how much hp are you hoping to have?? i am somewhat new to turbo fords but i know my way around general turbo theory and imports so i might could lend a tip or 2.
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mac91
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Nov 30, 2008 17:38:32 GMT -5
Post by mac91 on Nov 30, 2008 17:38:32 GMT -5
i was looking for around 250-300. I was thinking about runnin twin turbo setup just to do it.
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93 na
Dec 1, 2008 16:23:32 GMT -5
Post by Stinger on Dec 1, 2008 16:23:32 GMT -5
You can actually use a turbo ECU with the dual plug system, that's not really an issue. You may want to rethink the twin turbo idea though. Sure, it's doable but why? It will perform no better than a single (probably worse) cost way more, and require numerous non-standard parts that are either not available (you'll have to fab them) or not readily available at a parts store (if you break down away from home and need parts to fix it).
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mac91
Boosting 5 psi
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 6:20:16 GMT -5
Post by mac91 on Dec 4, 2008 6:20:16 GMT -5
why dont people just put the turbo ecu in the dual plug with forged pistons and slap a turbo and injectors in and go? that seems like it would work. The only prob would be adjusting the maf meter for the larger injectors.
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schlot
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 12:51:24 GMT -5
Post by schlot on Dec 4, 2008 12:51:24 GMT -5
Just don't think there is a lot of benefit with the dual plug head vs. a good D port head to begin with. I got one of each in the garage and I know the dual plug looks like it won't flow like the turbo head.
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 15:37:20 GMT -5
Post by 93redgt on Dec 4, 2008 15:37:20 GMT -5
now if you had a tuner or a shop that could tune could you run the dual-plug mass air computer and mass air, for a turbo setup
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 21:44:34 GMT -5
Post by Stinger on Dec 4, 2008 21:44:34 GMT -5
why dont people just put the turbo ecu in the dual plug with forged pistons and slap a turbo and injectors in and go? that seems like it would work. The only prob would be adjusting the maf meter for the larger injectors. It's been done. With a tuner on the turbo ecu, you can run whatever maf or injectors you want. Only thing is, there is no benefit to running the dual plug head, especially after you upgrade the exhaust valves to something that will hold up to the high heat a high performance turbo engine will produce.
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 22:07:04 GMT -5
Post by 93redgt on Dec 4, 2008 22:07:04 GMT -5
if it is possible to run the dis coils on a 4 plug head why not just use the it with the 8 plug mass air computer wouldn't that allow you to run dis and mass air, with the turbo the best of both
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93 na
Dec 4, 2008 22:45:20 GMT -5
Post by Stinger on Dec 4, 2008 22:45:20 GMT -5
There is no ecu tuner available for the dual plug/mass air computer, that's the problem. You can run DIS, Mass-air, and the turbo ecu with a tuner though, that's why it is the most popular means to run DIS on a turbo engine.
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93 na
Dec 5, 2008 8:38:56 GMT -5
Post by 93redgt on Dec 5, 2008 8:38:56 GMT -5
now i know its not the same but couldn't a tuner (a shop with dyno and chipburning) make one for it, you can do that on a 5.0 with mass air put a turbo on it, put a chip with the recalibration of injectors and mass air and additional boost, yes i know that this ties you to that tuner shop. but would that work.
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