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Post by Stinger on Feb 14, 2019 13:13:36 GMT -5
The CAS is significantly shorter than stock so I suspect it will fit. It replaces all of the black plastic in this picture, not just the cap itself. So it's about the height of the distributor with no cap at all.  |
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Post by 19lightning93 on Feb 14, 2019 13:44:04 GMT -5
The CAS is significantly shorter than stock so I suspect it will fit. It replaces all of the black plastic in this picture, not just the cap itself. So it's about the height of the distributor with no cap at all. That will be almost perfect. I've had an m122 laying around that needs a good home. Sadly the snout comes right across the dizzy. But if it's that low with a decent intercooler core it should just clear. |
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Post by lowriderb on Mar 1, 2019 17:04:27 GMT -5
I had a couple questions about the cas and wiring harness.
With the cas top and harness, is the cas going to plug into the oem harness or is that going to need to be modified to work? Just to make sure, you can run cop with just the cas correct?
Also with the expansion harness are you still able to keep the canl and canh wires for the perfect tuning gauge?
Thanks
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Post by Stinger on Mar 2, 2019 0:56:22 GMT -5
The only harness it will plug directly into is our plug and play coil on plug harness. The other two options (generic expansion harness or stock harness) don't plug in directly as the generic expansion harness has no plugs to plug into and the stock harness has the TFI plug that you use the wires from to connect the CAS (either de-pin it or cut the wires and connect to them).
The plug and play expansion harness still has all of the "other" wires that aren't used by the CAS or coils like CAN H, CAN L, Nitrous in/out, flex, etc.
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Post by escortsportage on Mar 3, 2019 19:57:26 GMT -5
When is this happening? I legit just got my fox fired up, cant wait for the Coil On Plug setup.
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Post by Stinger on Mar 3, 2019 23:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by escortsportage on Mar 4, 2019 9:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by dew34 on Mar 5, 2019 9:05:01 GMT -5
Are their any plans to offer the pimp engine harness with the COP harness integrated into so you can run one harness instead of two ?
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Post by Stinger on Mar 5, 2019 14:48:00 GMT -5
No. There is no way to integrate it into the EEC connector which means it's still two harnesses anyway (two different ECU connectors) and pretty much everything is independent as well so the only "integration" is wires running in the same loom.
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Post by 19lightning93 on Mar 5, 2019 15:00:14 GMT -5
I would like to see some type of bullet connector or nice grommet. I've had issues drilling the firewall and getting a good seal with universal grommets.
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Post by Stinger on Mar 5, 2019 16:01:02 GMT -5
Because of the varying applications and therefore the varying location of the firewall and hole location, there is no way to make a "one size fits all" solution that includes a bulkhead fitting, or to be able to use a grommet that's not split so it can be slid onto the wire wherever it needs to be to fit properly. This becomes even more true when you consider that the expansion harness still has all of the other wires for optional features (nitrous control, flex fuel, PWM, etc.) that is hidden behind the firewall near the ECU UNLESS you need to use it in which case it would also need to go through the firewall/grommet. With a grommet that isn't split there is no way to gets extra wires through them.
The only "solution" is a entire new engine/expansion harness that includes all of this stuff but that would be in the neighborhood of $800 just to fix a potential grommet problem (and you end up with all of those optional/unused wires under your hood to make sure they came through the grommet as-sold or else the same problem would still exist with the new harness).
The more practical solution to a leak would be making sure the wire is taped where it goes through the firewall so the OD is smooth and a little black RTV around the wires/grommet ID and smoothed with your finger so it looks good/blends.
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Post by dew34 on Mar 5, 2019 16:58:51 GMT -5
No. There is no way to integrate it into the EEC connector which means it's still two harnesses anyway (two different ECU connectors) and pretty much everything is independent as well so the only "integration" is wires running in the same loom. Shannon I know it uses 2 different plugs I was looking to maybe make it more convenient and maybe a cleaner install,possibly a cheaper pimp ecu/cop engine harness combo . By the way the CAS looks top notch ! In a few days i will test fit a svo head on a mid deck block, sheet metal manifold and dist.to see what kinda clearance now that you posted some measurements. mike |
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Post by pinto148 on Mar 5, 2019 20:42:58 GMT -5
Hoping someone will post a picture of this setup on their 2.3. Would like to see the bracket and coil set up and location mounted
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Post by Stinger on Mar 6, 2019 0:15:28 GMT -5
No. There is no way to integrate it into the EEC connector which means it's still two harnesses anyway (two different ECU connectors) and pretty much everything is independent as well so the only "integration" is wires running in the same loom. Shannon I know it uses 2 different plugs I was looking to maybe make it more convenient and maybe a cleaner install,possibly a cheaper pimp ecu/cop engine harness combo . By the way the CAS looks top notch ! In a few days i will test fit a svo head on a mid deck block, sheet metal manifold and dist.to see what kinda clearance now that you posted some measurements. mike That's the problem, it wouldn't be cheaper since it's not sharing anything but the loom. It's still the same number of new connectors, same amount of wire, same amount of work to make, etc. The harness is also basically hidden other than were it connects to the CAS and coils (and that's true whether it's one harness or two). It would be cleaner going through the stock grommet location but since the stock grommet is oval shaped there is enough room to drill a hole and run the second harness under the first and look factory anyway. Factor all of that with the fact that the vast majority of customers are running a stock harness and all the "all in one" harness would do is drive up the price of both because of the economy of scale on a low production product. If I'm buying less of both compared to more of one then cost goes up. Either way, I appreciate the feedback. I considered it initially but ultimately decided the expansion method was the way to go since it works for everyone regardless of application, what harness they are running, etc. |
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Post by dew34 on Mar 6, 2019 8:56:26 GMT -5
Shannon after reading that I can totally agree with you on that. I do appreciate the fact that you and Wes are still developing products for the 2.3t. On a side note i think any one tinkering with a 2.3 t should really consider a new engine /ecu harness their are alot of gremlins hiding out in a 30 plus year old harness that has been baked from turbo/engine heat .
mike
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