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Post by porkchop on Dec 24, 2011 16:08:22 GMT -5
I've requested to added to the waiting list already but I got a question about distributorless ignition in advance before I get mine sometime next year.
I've got a 5.0 Mustang and I'm planning to swap to EDIS. I know it can be done with a factory A9L processor but I'm wondering will the PiMP system handle EDIS? Since the PiMP replaces the A9L and handles all the chores that an A9L would, I assume it'll give the same signals that is required for the EDIS to work. With the A9L, I've been told you just hack into the harness at the TFI module, so I assume PiMP can be used in place of a factory ECM when attempting EDIS.
Is this so? Anybody know or used it with EDIS?
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Post by wesk on Dec 25, 2011 11:38:27 GMT -5
I did not know an a9l could be made to work with EDIS.
The PiMP was designed with the option of either a 5v or 12v pullup (selectable with a jumper) on the ignition output circuit. The 5v is for EDIS, although I have not actually used it with EDIS. That is on my "to do" list, to install on EDIS car and verify function.l
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Post by porkchop on Dec 25, 2011 18:32:22 GMT -5
From what I've been told, it'll work with an A9L but I can't verify it myself either until I try it. I'm on the waiting list here and I'd really like to know for sure EDIS will work with the PiMP before I get it.
My plan is to get the PiMP and use it regardless or it was originally but now I'm wanting to go distributorless and I'm really hoping that the PiMP will do this.
I guess soon as my name comes up on the list, we'll know if somebody else hasn't tried it first. Every other aftermarket ECM that I've seen like the ones by AEM or whoever, are too high priced compared to the PiMP. Even Megasquirt's DIY kit is higher compared to the PiMP when you look at the fact that you gotta build it yourself AND that the software seems a lot harder to use. The PiMP system seems to have the easiest software to learn and use, that's a huge plus as to why I want it. I'm hoping it'll handle EDIS chores.
According to the guys on Corral.net, the A9L will handle EDIS. How, I don't know, but they claim it will and there are others who say they've used it with success.
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Post by wesk on Dec 25, 2011 21:13:25 GMT -5
I guess soon as my name comes up on the list, we'll know if somebody else hasn't tried it first. Every other aftermarket ECM that I've seen like the ones by AEM or whoever, are too high priced compared to the PiMP. Even Megasquirt's DIY kit is higher compared to the PiMP when you look at the fact that you gotta build it yourself AND that the software seems a lot harder to use. While we certinaly believe the PiMP is the easiest/most plug an play solution, to be fare we use exactly the same software as DIY's pnp. Any Megasquirt product benefits from the great software. |
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Post by porkchop on Dec 26, 2011 2:00:36 GMT -5
I'll take my chances waiting for my PiMP unit. I've seen the results and seen the tuning, along with it being able to auto-tune itself to get you pretty close to a perfect tune. I'm in no hurry, I can wait.
So you're telling me that the PiMP can handle EDIS-8 if I end up deciding for 100% that I want distributorless ignition?
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Post by wesk on Dec 26, 2011 14:00:10 GMT -5
It should handle it with no internal modifications, although I have not tested this. I have made provisions for no pullup, 12v pullup (tfi), and 5v pullup (EDIS). If you have a decent amount of time (given the waiting list I think you do), I should be able to verify this works using my Dad's t-bird (we have EDIS 4 on it, but a standard type megasquirt.)
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Post by porkchop on Dec 27, 2011 0:04:45 GMT -5
Yea I believe I have plenty of time. If I had my PiMP in my hands today, I'd still have plenty of time. So I guess together, we got plenty of time. If you can help me verify that it'll work ahead of time, that would be great.
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Post by dans on Dec 27, 2011 10:14:34 GMT -5
I'm very glad someone asked that question! I signed up on the PiMP list yesterday (12-26-11) and have the same plans. Currently there are many components sitting on my shelf, but I want to get the PiMP in and running before the mods begin (one-at-a-time)! ;D
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Post by porkchop on Dec 27, 2011 17:19:25 GMT -5
I guess soon as my name comes up on the list, we'll know if somebody else hasn't tried it first. Every other aftermarket ECM that I've seen like the ones by AEM or whoever, are too high priced compared to the PiMP. Even Megasquirt's DIY kit is higher compared to the PiMP when you look at the fact that you gotta build it yourself AND that the software seems a lot harder to use. While we certinaly believe the PiMP is the easiest/most plug an play solution, to be fare we use exactly the same software as DIY's pnp. Any Megasquirt product benefits from the great software. So the software that I'd use with the PiMP system is the same as the one that comes with the MegaSquirt system? The MS system would have the same auto-tune feature that the PiMP has? The thing about the PiMP system, from what I've seen, is that it fits into and comes in, the factory Ford ECM case. So that means it fits in the stock ECM location. It's already put together and tested, I assume. It comes with a baseline tune. It seems to have an easier user interface. There is ONE forum for it and it seems fairly active with responses, especially compared to the other forums for the other options like Megasquirt. I want something with some tech support behind it, so for me it just makes sense to wait for the PiMP. Sure, it cost more but it has more going for it in my opinion than the others do. I like building crap... I might buy a Megasquirt just so I can go ahead and get my combo running with EDIS-8 but I can promise you, I'll still switch to PiMP... hands down... no questions ask. But I'm in no hurry right and I see no reason to waste the money on a system I won't be running. |
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Post by wesk on Dec 28, 2011 13:36:24 GMT -5
The PIMP is functionally a MS2, with specific features that support 2.3t's and 5.0 mustangs extremely well. The software and user interface is the same as you can use with all other MS variants. We do provide the option to purchase a discounted Tunerstudio liscence (gets you all the cool features).
While we appreciate your comment regarding this forum vs. the MSExtra forums, I would consider those a valueable resource as well.
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Post by porkchop on Dec 28, 2011 17:04:05 GMT -5
Yea I wasn't knocking them. I just meant that from what I've seen, not that I've dug very deep, this is a better product with better support. I started looking for a solution and when I found the PiMP, pretty much I figured there was no need to carry on.
I need to research the TunerStudio though, I don't know anything about it. When I buy my PiMP, what software comes with it? Is my base tune included?
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Post by wesk on Dec 28, 2011 21:33:39 GMT -5
Any base tune is you request is included. Tunerstudio Light is free, as is the unregisterd version of the log viewer (Megalogviewer). We include the install packages on a thumb drive to make your life easy, but they are available for free download on the efi analytics web page.
Many of the "cool" features of TS are only available in the registered version. This is typically $40, and we provide the option when you purchase the PiMP to add the liscense at a discounted rate (I think we sell them for $32). We don't make a dime off of this purchase, and get the discount because we buy the liscenses 20 at a time.
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Post by porkchop on Dec 29, 2011 19:03:43 GMT -5
Cool. Hire up some more people to build them puppies then so I can get mine. Actually, I got my name on two, one for myself and one for my Dad. Or I'm suppose to be on the list anyway, I emailed and requested to be put on it.
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Post by Stinger on Dec 29, 2011 20:53:10 GMT -5
We've actually got another person lined up to build them at a quicker rate (hopefully). I'll be sending him supplies in the next couple weeks.
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Post by porkchop on Jan 5, 2012 17:45:38 GMT -5
Well dern... I do electronic repair myself, I work on computer motherboards, cb and ham radios, use to work on TV's a little back in the day too. Just box me up some parts and I'll build my own too...haha.
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