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Post by wingsofwax180 on Feb 23, 2010 18:15:15 GMT -5
awhile ago I bought a clutch from stinger and decided to replace the master and slave cylinders but now they wont bleed at all this is on an 88 turbocoupe the cars been off the road for a long time now and its killing me anybody have any thoughts any advice will be a help and greatly appreciated
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Post by Stinger on Feb 24, 2010 0:48:01 GMT -5
What is your method for bleeding it (be specific).
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Feb 24, 2010 17:06:30 GMT -5
I filled the resivior and had a friend pump the pedal and hold the I opened the bleeder screw some fluid would come out then air so I closed it before lifting off the pedal and repeated next time only air then we got some more fluid but it seems no matter how much we do this the pedal never has any resistance it just flops untill about the last 1/4 in before the floor and the actuator rod on the slave at the most only moves about an 1/8 in what I dont understand this worked before when I replaced the slave only on the thunderbird I had before
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Post by Matt Culpepper 2300gearjammer on Feb 25, 2010 3:21:33 GMT -5
Some simple questions to address first.
- How many times did your friend pump the pedal and was it being pushed all the way to the floor?
- Has all of this been done with the hyd system completely bolted up?
...Meaning have you tried bleeding with the slave loose?
What happens, and really bad in stuff like S10s, is that there is a slight angle in the slave cylinder and it traps air where bleeding doesnt get it all. The best thing, if you have pumped the pedal at least 30-40 times while bleeding, is to remove the slave from the bellhousing. DO NOT PUSH THE PEDAL. With the res topped off, open the bleeder and angle the slave down in the front and then up rocking back and fourth. It might also help to leave the bleeder just slightly loose and let the slave dangle for an afternoon just keeping an eye on the fluid level.
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Feb 25, 2010 17:10:16 GMT -5
to answer your questions about 20-30 times and all the way to the floor and yes it was bolted up completely but with only the front of the jacked up in an attempt to level out the master wich is slightly angled down and thank you for the tip Ill try that tonight and let you know how that goes
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Feb 25, 2010 22:30:57 GMT -5
so there was one thing I missed the bleeder screw wasnt sealing but I did get one slave I had laying around to work thanks for all the help
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Post by boneyardracing on Feb 26, 2010 8:05:04 GMT -5
Okay I think I have all the brake fluid off/out of my body that was unpleasent. Glad we got you sorted out buddy
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Post by Matt Culpepper 2300gearjammer on Feb 26, 2010 8:50:25 GMT -5
Ha. yep I didn't think about that.
glad you got it straight.
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Post by boneyardracing on Feb 28, 2010 22:25:42 GMT -5
Today's problem the clutch is blead we fired the car up. The car only has 1st and 4th it seems to want to go into 2nd and 3rd but however they dont fully engage and make that great straight cut gear whine when in. No 5th or reverse at all. I have a feeling it is the clutch not disengageing all the way as the slave seems to push itself out of the bracket about 1/16" before the clutch fork is actuated. We are going to shim that out a little. Any body have other suggestions. We've tried:
Check fluid- Good
Check shifter bushing- Good
Clean and re grease shifter- Done
Different shifter lever- Done
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Post by Stinger on Feb 28, 2010 23:43:59 GMT -5
Do you have an aftermarket shifter? If so it could be the shift stops.
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Mar 1, 2010 17:22:08 GMT -5
Nope bone stock shifter
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Post by Matt Culpepper 2300gearjammer on Mar 1, 2010 22:40:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't think its a slave issue "if" you can sit still at idle, push the clutch and have it go right into 1st without grinding or needing a lot of pressure.
-When did it start having all these issues?
-Did it do anything weird before the clutch swap?
-Did anything else with the trans get changed or messed with at the same time?
-What input bearing is being used?
-If you're stopped, engine off can you put the trans in every single gear?
It aaaalmost sounds like a shift interlock not working.
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Mar 3, 2010 16:40:24 GMT -5
the issues started as soon as we got the clutch system working before the clutch swap the nothin g was weird except horrid clutch slip during the swap the only thing that happend to the trans was it sat on the floor underneath the car I didnt change anything and Im using a stock style bearing the trans will go into every gear but you have to roll the tires a little right now its up on jack stands
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Post by Stinger on Mar 3, 2010 18:50:23 GMT -5
Does the hydro system have a self adjuster on the clutch pedal? I'd assume not but if it does, let it self adjust as it sounds like the clutch isn't quite releasing all the way.
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Post by wingsofwax180 on Mar 4, 2010 8:46:23 GMT -5
so we're going to try to shim the slave to get the clutch to release be cause it moves about 1/16 in back when the pedal is pressed then acctuates the fork and the manual says there is an adjustment for the pedal then it pretty much says we're not going to tell you how to use it because you will never have to so I'm guessing either their full of crap or its auto adjusting? but I spent a good amount of time upside down with my head under the dash looking for and adjustment of any kind on the clutch pedal and couldnt find one so I'm not sure
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