1 Hold Up on the FMIC Purchase

[psrumors]

How hard is it to move the condensor? I must retain the A/C and the only hold up to the purchase is moving the condensor closer to the radiator.

[psrumors]

this is for a 84 GT Turbo

[Stinger]

It's really just a matter of removing the condensor mounts and pushing it backward. There is enough flex in the rubber part of the lines to make up for the difference. Whether you choose to make new mounts, or just put a rubber bumper on it to keep it from moving back into the IC is up to you.

[psrumors]

So the intercooler sits between the radiator and condensor? The parts description and posts I have seen say the condersor gets moved an 1" closer to the radiator.

My fab skills really suck, that is really my only issue, other than being a wuss and wanting to keep a/c.

Thanks

[Stinger]

No, it sits in front of everything.

[psrumors]

Ok, well I placed the order so we will see how I do. I purchased another brand kit and it didn't fit at all, the bumper cover wouldn't go back on. Of course it was made for a SVO and I am sure that played a roll.

[Stinger]

Got the order today. Yeah, I saw that fitment issue on TF.

[psrumors]

I got the heat exchanger the other day and started seeing how it fits.

How low in the bumper cover is it suppose to sit? I see these guys with SVOs with it all the way down as if they have it sitting on the bottom of the cover. I don't have but 2.75" between my cover and radiator support if it is to sit that low.

[Stinger]

In SVO's it sits on the bottom of the cover. Yours may need to sit a bit higher, there is about 1" of room to spare vertically before the tubing runs into the bumper supports.

[craigo84]

i have the same car and are thinking of buying this kit. let me know how it works and i dont have ac so i could probably just take it out.

[Stinger]

Without IC there is certainly nothing to worry about.

[psrumors]

Craig, it is an excellent kit. I am quite happy I bought even with a few things I had to do. Here is what I found, it is posted in the Feedback section but here it is as well.

On my first spirited drive I took an infered thermometer and did a little checking. There was 100 degrees difference between the pipes before and after the heat exchanger, to the good of course.

My turbo outlet was like 176 and the outlet of the heat exchanger was 77. Very nice difference.

1st off let me say this is a very nice kit. About the only thing that could make it better would be aluminum piping but of course that would add to the cost. My plan is to have my pipes powder-coated.

Prior to buying the Stinger FMIC kit I looked here and elsewhere trying to find issues people were having or things that need to be done to install the kit. I came up with nothing so figured I would list the changes I had to make in order to install the kit on my '84 GT Turbo.

TURBO CLOCKING

If you have access to a SVO compressor housing remove and replace, that is the easiest and quickest otherwise you will need to do the following.

If trying to install on a non-intercooled (turbo coupe / GT Turbo) you will need to clock the turbo other wise the two intercooler tubes will hit each other and not line up very well.

To do this I found it easier to remove the turbo from the car. I removed the Turbo and exhaust manifold as a unit. All 6 bolts to the compressor housing will need to be removed. Rotate the housing counter clockwise, looking at the front of the turbo. You are trying to get the outlet of the compressor pointing straight up.

The WGA will sit further from the exhaust manifold than it did, more centered under the turbo. One of the WGA bolts will be in the way of the Oil Outlet Fitting. You will need to grind the head of this bolt down to about half its thickness.

The WGA will need to be setup by adjusting the waste gate push rod.

With using the non-intercooled compressor housing the intake bell will be positioned in more of downward angle. I still have not come up with a solution but am looking at several different options. This isn't near the issue if you are not keeping A/C but I am trying too.

You will also need an outlet similar to the SVO. I used a 90 degree outlet similar to a Spearco so I had to order a 2.5" to 2" silicone transition. The Stinger kit comes with a 90 degree 2.5" to 2" transition for use with the SVO outlet.

VACUUM HOSES

The vacuum hoses coming off the turbo to throttle body pipe will need to be removed. This supplies vacuum to the cruise control under boost conditions. I have read the cruise will still operate, I will know more when I test it in a couple days.

INNER FENDER TRIMING

Pretty simple. Once you have the heat exchanger mounted and start putting the U pipes on that come into the engine compartment you will see what needs to be cut. What you trim can't be seen unless you get under the car.

HEAT EXCHANGER

I assume there is more room on the SVOs bumper cover and possibly the Mustang with Fog Lights. My GT Turbo does not have fog lights and the heat exchanger is very tight.

I had to loosen the bottom (under the car) bumper cover bolts and push the bumper cover forward, this does not look weird, is not noticable, etc. I also had to trim some plastic where the top of the heat exchanger sits. None of this can be seen and does not effect the structural integrety of the cover.

The heat exchanger is still pinned between the lower bumper cover and radiator support. There is metal to metal contact and will have to be watched for wear.

A/C

The radiator will need to be moved out as there just is not enough room between the radiator and the heat exchanger to physically fit the condensor. I have spoke to people with SVOs and this kit and this was not an issue. It is on the GT Turbo. Maybe due to the difference in bumper covers?

I am still putting the car back together and have some things to finish up. If I find anything else I will update the thread.

[bgpickle]

will i have the same problem putting a front moumt kit in my 91? also what about the compessor from a 91 non turbo car will that fit with the svo turbo

[Stinger]

91's have limited space on the nose, you'll need to trim the lower bumper cover some to clear the IC, otherwise it should be fine.

[tonye]

thanks for the evaluation, that helps alot.
i want to get one for myself this year.