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Post by 93notchtc on May 18, 2009 23:01:14 GMT -5
I know this is not what you guys will like but I might swap my 88 T/C engine for a 347. Now I'm not dead set on doing this. I like the sound of a V8 but I like to be the under dog it would be nice to smoke v8's with my 4 cylinder. Well let me get to the point. Can some one give me a ideal of what my car will run with the following parts add? 1) stinger header kit the $775 Value kit 2) Front Mount Inter-cooler Kit for Rotated Intakes 3) bo-port's stage 3 head and cam with Roller option 4) BO-port's port work on intake 5) stock bottom end for now and stock turbo IHI(may change) this is every thing else about the car it is a 1993 notch back mustang with a t5 (may go auto) about 3400lbs with me in it 3.73 with spool and m/t DR 255lph pump afpr LA3 ecu brown top injectors big vam k&n filter turboxs 2 stage boost controller msd 6al Eibach Drag-Launch Springs in rear with 4cyl springs in front 3.5x15 welds in the front 8x18 in rear with mt Dr 18psi of boost. I think thats every thing. I would say I'm a OK drive (Just got the car) I did beat a friend's 02 mustang with a few bolt on's done to it. Thanks for all the help If there's some thing I might need to add to this list of to buy parts let me know Thanks for the help Sorry about all the  's |
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Post by Matt Culpepper 2300gearjammer on May 19, 2009 0:00:29 GMT -5
Basically you listed the exact set-up as my daily driver. With "very slight" differences.
First theres no way friends let friends do mods and leave an IHI. Thats by far the first thing to go anyway. Worse yet, you would completely choke the crap out of that set-up even with a big housing on a T3.
Second: To weigh 3400 in a notch with driver, you could have two really big passengers. I've stripped only the sound deadener from my white coupe and its 2900 with me.
Save your money and run a completely stock suspension front and rear and just get the drag bag for the right rear spring.
Save more money and dont get a 2 stage boost controller. I've never understood this...If I want to run 27psi I set it there before I leave the house.
Save even more money and dont do the spool. Its not needed. A simple $45 clutch pack kit and some shims will achieve the same. besides with a spool you'll need C-clip elims/axles ect.
....While you're saving money I'll say the DR's wont hook for crap with a T5.
You'll also need a way to tune everything. We are currently running MS2.
Now the most important question. you have a basically stock swapped car and the 02 GT had simple mods? Have you run your car on a track?
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Post by 93notchtc on May 19, 2009 10:48:28 GMT -5
Matt
Thanks for the reply. All of the stuff I listed here is done to the car already
stock bottom end for now and stock turbo IHI(may change)
this is every thing else about the car it is a 1993 notch back mustang with a t5 (may go auto) about 3400lbs with me in it 3.73 with spool and m/t DR 255lph pump afpr LA3 ecu brown top injectors big vam k&n filter turboxs 2 stage boost controller msd 6al Eibach Drag-Launch Springs in rear with 4cyl springs in front
3.5x15 welds in the front 8x15 in rear with mt Dr 18psi of boost. I think thats every thing. I would say I'm a OK drive (Just got the car) I did beat a friend's 02 mustang with a few bolt on's done to it.
We did not race on a track. I did have a issue with hooking up.
I got the 2 stage boost controller so that I could run one setting for pump gas and one for the track, Also if my Lil brother wants to drive the car I can change the boost for him.
Also my rear right spring does have a airbag in it.
stinger said I should be good With a stock t3 turbo till I max it out. Where is a good place to get one used or new? I found some on ebay but they just seem way to cheap to be any good.
What all Do I need to run ms2. Is There a kit just for our cars. Stinger gave me a few link to info that I'm going to go read now.
I was guessing on the weight of the car but it's full weight with me (280lbs)
This is the 1st turbo can that I have driven. Is there a way to build boost to lunch with boost with a 5 speed. I put my right foot on the brake and gas the other day and let the clutch out a Little and it build boost and took off like a bat out of hell. I don't think my clutch will last long do it that ;D Thanks for all the help Matt do you ever go to the track down here in Gainesville,Fl That is where I'll be running my car. Thanks for all the help Josh
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Post by Stinger on May 19, 2009 11:33:32 GMT -5
If you already have all of those engine mods, then my previous statement about the T3 no longer applies, it is maxed out and should be upgraded. You need a larger than stock turbo (Like a large hybrid or a Holset HX35 or HY35.
A 2-step with an MSD box will allow you to build boost in neutral. Wiring a switch to the spout will also do it (less effectively) for cheap.
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Post by 93notchtc on May 19, 2009 11:52:14 GMT -5
I do not have 1-4 done to the car yet thats what I will be adding in the next 6-8 weeks. So I do need to look for a new turbo to go with the rest of this stuff.
Any ideals of what the car should run with me being a OK driver. I know It will get fast as I learn to drive it better
Thanks for the help guys
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Post by Matt Culpepper 2300gearjammer on May 19, 2009 14:45:51 GMT -5
I'm terribly confused...make two lists.... done: blahblah and not done: blahblahblah
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Post by 93notchtc on May 19, 2009 15:12:50 GMT -5
This is what is done to the car right now
stock bottom end and head and stock turbo IHI all stock 88 turbo coupe engine in a 1993 mustang notch back
18psi of boost
t5 trans 3.73 with spool and m/t DR
255lph pump, afpr, LA3 ecu brown top injectors big vam k&n filter
turboxs 2 stage boost controller
Eibach Drag-Launch Springs in rear with 4cyl springs in front
3.5x15 welds in the front 8x18 in rear with mt Dr
This is what I want to add in the next 6-8 weeks
1) stinger header kit the $775 Value kit
2) Front Mount Inter-cooler Kit for Rotated Intakes
3) Bo-port's stage 3 head and cam with Roller option
4) BO-port's port work on intake
5) msd 6al I have this from my old mustang is this good to use? Can I use a 2 step with it?
And maybe ms2 and a bigger turbo
Hope this helps Matt Thanks for the help
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Post by 93lxturbo on May 19, 2009 16:58:30 GMT -5
this is about what i have done to my 93 mustang
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Post by Stinger on May 20, 2009 12:54:41 GMT -5
The Stinger and Bo parts will warrant an upgraded turbo as well as a means to tune for larger injectors. Without larger injectors and a larger turbo, you will be limited to 280hp or so. With a proper turbo, tune, and injectors, it could make 450+hp on race gas. In a perfect world that's enough to run high 10's at your car weight. With a marginal driver, it's a high 11/low 12 second car.
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Post by 93stangnow23t on May 29, 2009 19:19:34 GMT -5
well my question for you guys is what if he got a 83-86 TC turbo that can run more boost?
my hp quest was 300hp but it looks like im going to be getting more than i wanted.
shucks thats sucks i have to get more hp LOL
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Post by Stinger on May 31, 2009 12:00:14 GMT -5
well my question for you guys is what if he got a 83-86 TC turbo that can run more boost? my hp quest was 300hp but it looks like im going to be getting more than i wanted. shucks thats sucks i have to get more hp LOL It's not all about how much boost you can run. For the record, with an IHI on his above setup, he probably won't be able to get more than 12-14psi at high rpm because the turbo won't be able to flow enough air to create any more than that (because it's too small). With the 83-86 TC turbo (T3), the same thing will happen, only to a lesser extent. He probably won't be able to exceed 18psi or so because the turbo won't be able to keep up with the flow of all of his hi-flow parts listed above. A T3 will max out around 300-320hp so it can work for your setup and you don't need all the parts he listed above to get to 300hp. I said he was limited to 280 because of his turbo. Once you upgrades the turbo and has enough fuel to support it, he'll have a 400+hp setup when properly tuned and cranked up. |
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