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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 11, 2009 21:10:56 GMT -5
Im going to be adding some upgrades to the thunder chicken here in the next few weeks. I got all the reliability stuff straight on it, just replaced the front pads and cut the rotors, new clutch/flywheel from tampa clutch, new inner/outer front tie rods, and will be getting new rear tires and an alignment very soon.
im looking for 250 rwhp and gobs of tq from this setup with good reliability. i dont think im going to worry much about porting the head, but i do plan on finding an a237 cam or a bo 1.5. i have ranger roller hard ware to install with. are these cams compatible with my stock valve train? on top of that ill be installing a gutted upper, sn95 tb, ported/knifed lower, 3" elbow, and the smaller .48 svo t3 to go along with my stinger fmic, 3" dp/single exhaust, kirban fpr, walboro 255, brown tops, big vam (going to leave it draw thru), and will be replacing the forge bpv with a dual piston bov. i am going to use my wideband as a marker to keep the afr within not too lean range, and i might take it to the dyno to tune the cam gear for broad/useable power if i can find some extra money and time. is 250 at the tires doable with this type of setup and tuning? thanks in advance.
-dan
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Post by 93turbopony on Dec 12, 2009 11:21:18 GMT -5
I say you would be right around the 250 range possibly higher with added fuel pressure, ported head, and like 21psi also if you want to use a BO cam you need to get his HLA's
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Post by Stinger on Dec 12, 2009 11:26:40 GMT -5
How much boost? What IC?
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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 12, 2009 12:07:33 GMT -5
as much boost as i can safely run with that turbo (im guessing 22 psi or so), and the stinger fmic kit. sorry, forgot those details.
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Post by svojohn on Dec 12, 2009 19:52:54 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of using the brown top injectors or the .48 turbine housing. The .63 turbine will spool quick enough and make more hp and tq. Brown tops will be on the edge, especially when the VAM is pegged before 3500 RPM.
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Post by Stinger on Dec 13, 2009 10:04:38 GMT -5
I concur with John on the housing. You'll be somewhere in the 220-270rwhp range depending on how well everything seals up (valve seats, rings, etc.) as well as which of those cams and how well it is tuned.
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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 13, 2009 15:11:33 GMT -5
yea if i had the chance i would get the bigger housing. this is something that is available at a very good price, and immediately. i am going to send it to evergreen turbo for a rebuild before i use it, so perhaps i can get him to do something about the housing. i planned on tuning it with the fpr until i can save for the rest of the tuning tools, and of course the larger injectors. will i need different hardware to run the bo 1.5 cam, or will the ranger roller stuff work?
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Post by Stinger on Dec 14, 2009 0:49:13 GMT -5
Please don't send it to Evergreen...you'll end up with a clipped exhaust wheel (junk) and a T04B v-trim compressor wheel (junk on a 2.3). I have no idea why they always try to sell 2.3 people such a POS turbo. If you want a quality rebuild for a great price from another fellow 2.3 guy, send it to www.supernaturalturbo.com |
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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 14, 2009 19:54:04 GMT -5
i will look into that place. i have heard good and bad about evergreen, the plus to him is that he is local to me. only about an hr north. thanks again for the help. would supernaturalturbo be able to rebuild/improve the turbo i am getting? only reason im getting it is bc a friend of mine is tossing it in for free with a set of nicely done intakes, so i cant beat that price. it probably doesnt even need a rebuild, but i am going to have it done for peace of mind.
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Post by Stinger on Dec 14, 2009 22:55:20 GMT -5
Yes, they can upgrade it if you prefer. That's actually how they prefer to sell hybrid turbos is to have the custom send in a usable core and then upgrade from there.
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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 14, 2009 23:56:21 GMT -5
I will definitely look into that. any recommendations on what to have them do to my core? a small hybrid would probably do well for me, or even just having them rebuild my smaller t3 to the bigger one from the earlier svo's.
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Post by Stinger on Dec 15, 2009 0:40:34 GMT -5
All SVO's have the same wheels, just different housings. For 250rwhp, there is no need for a hybrid. The only thing you could benefit from (if you want to spend the money) is to get the new GT series compressor/turbine for increased efficiency. Not sure which ones would be comparable in size to a stock T3 though (maybe a GT25 or something).
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Post by sleepinsol on Dec 15, 2009 1:36:29 GMT -5
understood. this is not by any means a full blown build, so i suppose ill just have the turbo redone to be reliable and keep it the way it is. i would rather have the larger, earlier model t3 (.60/.63), but i cant beat the price on this one. thanks again for the help. from what i understand, the tuning is what is going to make all these parts make the hp i want. so thats next on the "stuff to buy" list.
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