stinger exhaust questions

[sleepinsol]

I had a question regarding your 3" tail pipe. I know it says drivers side only, but if I modify it can I use it on my passenger side exhaust that already exists? also, which one of the mufflers that you offer is a straight through design? Or are they both? Thank you in advance!

[Stinger]

I suppose with enough modification it could be used on the passenger side. Basically you need a mirror image of it though (opposite of every bend you have). I can sell a passenger side tailpipe to you but I took them off the site because I wasn't satisfied with the way they fit. While they fit "ok" they don't fit perfect.

Magnaflow is straight through, Flowmaster is not (they are chambered).

[sleepinsol]

Would I need to use a muffler with that tail pipe, or is it long enough not to need one? Also, what sort of power differences are there with an open 3" down pipe in comparrison to a 3" exhaust dumped out a straight through muffler at the axel, and a complete 3" system including a muffler and tail pipe? Are there large gains to be made with the 3" elbow coming off of the turbo also? (All of these questions would assume just a typical street setup with a fmic, intake porting, ranger cam, etc..) It turns out i will not be putting my t3 on as soon as I thought, so while I have time I want to get my exhaust sorted out. Thanks again!

[Stinger]

You need to use a muffler. The inlet/outlet of the muffler are offset so the tailpipe and midpipe don't directly point at each other anyway. From a length standpoint I leave enough extra material that they would touch if they didn't have to be offset for proper fitment.

The power difference would be minimal between open downpipe and full exhaust. I'd assume less than 5hp difference.

The 3" elbow shows the largest gains when used with a hybrid turbo. The stock turbos do benefit from the 3" elbow, especially in terms of how quickly the turbo spools but turbos with larger exhaust wheels benefit even more. I typically tell people to upgrade the elbow and turbo at the same time.

[sleepinsol]

That is exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you! At the moment, I am running a crush bent 3" mid pipe. It was a freebie from someone that owed me some $$ for some work I had done. Is there a large difference in power between the mandrel bent mid pipe you make, and the crush bent one I have now? Its already welded to one of your 3" dp's.

[Stinger]

Power difference will depend on the amount of power you make. The more you make, the more it will hurt you. Just remember the crushed section is probably 2.5" or smaller so it's going to perform like 2.5" exhaust.

[sleepinsol]

Do you have any pictures of your passenger side, 3" mid pipe? Is it just a straight piece right off the dp, or does it tuck up a little?

[Stinger]

It's the same shape as the driver's side only it doesn't cross over as far...goes along the passenger side of the driveshaft instead of crossing under the driveshaft.

[sleepinsol]

That gives me a good visual. Thanks. I am considering hacking off this crush bent contraption and saving for one of your mid pipes, tail pipes, and a magnaflow. My muffler already cracked at the weld so no it is just a crush bent straight pipe welded to your dp. It performs well, but I am a perfectionist, and I want it quieter.

[Stinger]

One of my systems would give you the best of both worlds for sure...

[sleepinsol]

is there much drone under the car with a magnaflow and a turn down at the axle? with my old chambered muffler it droned worse than just the straight pipe (it seemed to muffle the sound of the turbo that made the car seem quieter).

[Stinger]

Dumped exhaust drones, period...doesn't matter what muffler you use. The tailpipe is the key to making it quiet.

[sleepinsol]

I figured that would be the case. Gotta have some way to get the sound out from under the car so it does not resonate off the road.