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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 2, 2020 20:42:02 GMT -5
Well I'm pretty disappointed right now. Im slowly putting this thing together. I installed the manifold flip kit and noticed the ports didn't quite line up right. Thought maybe they were upside down but no I had them on right. Nothing a burr bit can't fix. Now I try to mount the manifold to the adapters and it goes from bad to worse. The bolts only line up with one port. Burr bit can't fix this one as they are significantly off. I have two E6 manifolds and both line up the same. This is a very bad start.
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Post by Stinger on Oct 2, 2020 22:09:47 GMT -5
Does the manifold bolt up to the head without the adapters in place? I've seen plenty of cast manifolds that shrink over time and once unbolted they no longer bolt back up.
Not sure if you noticed but these are another company's adapters, we don't see them as they are drop shipped. With that said we've never had any reported issues before so I'd like to confirm the manifold fits the head before assuming there is an issue with the adapters.
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 3, 2020 18:30:18 GMT -5
I wasn't aware these could shrink. After checking what you said it would appear this thing has shrunk quite a bit. Would heating it up expand it enough to remount while hot or is this thing trash now? The second one is closer to lining up but it's cracked.
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Post by Stinger on Oct 3, 2020 19:18:04 GMT -5
Are they both E6 manifolds (first two digits of the casting number)? E6's rarely crack while the older/smaller internal dimension E3's all crack.
You most likely can't get it hot enough to grow enough while still being able to handle it to install it. Welding a cracked one is easy if you can weld though. It's cast steel not cast iron. Just v-groove the crack and then fill it with weld.
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 3, 2020 19:34:20 GMT -5
It cracked because someone put a hole in it and welded a pipe to it for a wastegate. I'd be more than happy to use rhat one if the wastegate pipe didn't point downward with the manifold flipped. Both are E6 btw.
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Post by Stinger on Oct 3, 2020 21:02:49 GMT -5
You can always block the external wastegate pipe and run it anyways (with an internal gate).
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 3, 2020 21:38:14 GMT -5
The turbo im running has no provisions for an internal wastegate. Not only that but the pipe sticking out of the manifold is about 4" long and would be in the way of the ac compressor
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Post by Stinger on Oct 3, 2020 23:00:04 GMT -5
Gotcha. Well, I guess it's time to find a different E6, then, or cut apart the one that shrunk and increase the spacing while it's being modified for an external gate.
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 3, 2020 23:11:32 GMT -5
I'd rather find another E6 than start segmenting this one. I already have a cast iron T3 to T3 adapter that fits between the manifold and turbo with a side opening for a 38mm wastegate. Nothing is working out right now. Hell I still haven't received the Pimpx harness that I ordered 3 weeks ago.
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Post by Stinger on Oct 4, 2020 0:44:16 GMT -5
The harness manufacturer has been running behind ever since they closed down for almost 2 months near the start of the pandemic. Seems they've never been able to catch up since then. Either way, they sent us the invoice for your harness on Friday which means I expect it to ship Monday or Tuesday at the latest as they don't send invoices until the harness is done or nearly done.
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 8, 2020 21:54:45 GMT -5
So I now have everything I purchased from you. Now I would like to swap the entire serpentine belt accessory assembly from my 96 2.3 to this motor. Only issue is the compressor sits where the alternator is suppose to go. In order to make it fit I need to completely eliminate the distributor assembly to clear the compressor. Would it be possible to run one of my dual plug coils using the crank and cam sensors from the 96 engine? The 96 crank pulley and cam sensor can be swapped from the 96 engine to the 87 turbo engine. Do I only need the expansion harness?
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Post by Stinger on Oct 8, 2020 23:48:34 GMT -5
You can run a single DIS coil IF you also run the DIS module, crank sensor, and cam sensor (and wire it accordingly). All of that still won't let you run sequential EFI.
Would likely be easier to run a 4 tower coil back that has an internal igniter so you can ditch the DIS module & wiring, then run the stock cam sensor and a high resolution crank sensor setup. Would be easier to wire and would allow sequential in the future if desired.
May be easier to run a different serp setup that fits with a distributor (87-88 Turbo Coupe, 87-90 2.3 Mustang).
Of course all of this is a lot of work and expense to replace a couple v-belts.
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Post by dannyum89 on Oct 28, 2020 20:57:38 GMT -5
It's coming together slowly now and I bought a SC TB. I got the TPS and cut a pigtail to wire into the pimp harness. The IAC was missing though and the IAC listed for this TB looks completely different from the 2.3. Do I reuse my 2.3 IACor buy the one for the 3.8?
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Post by Stinger on Oct 29, 2020 0:00:22 GMT -5
They have the same bolt pattern so you can use either one. The harness is wired for an SVO style one.
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